13: The one about community

Today's episode is part 2 of our series about women's mental health for LipTember.

Community is so so important, especially when it can get really isolating when running your own business. We talk about our experiences with networking, both online and IRL, and how fkn awesome it is when you find your tribe. We hope you enjoy listening.

Number of fucks given in this episode: 19

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Episode transcript

Christine: Welcome to the Fuck Around and Find Out podcast. We're your hosts Rah, Emily and Christine. We're three women who have built and run our own businesses and are here to shoot the shit on everything about women in business and running your own business. Hey ladies! I feel like I was only just talking to you a minute ago.

I know time is uh, flying by or in the old Latin word tempus fugit. Oh, thank you for teaching me some. You're absolutely welcome here. Um, but yes, so here we are, the three of us. We are in the DM podcast studio today. We are so totally got our big girl fuck around pants on right now. We've got a backdrop.

It's going to be splashed everywhere. It's just rainbows and unicorns. Really? Yes. Fucking great. Yeah, absolutely. We've got our nice little. New t shirts with our, uh, logos emblazoned across our left breast.

Rah: My favorite piece of chicken. 

Christine: Yep. Yep, absolutely. Breast is best. That's what 

Rah: my husband says all the time. 

Emily: Tits are 

Rah: great. 

Emily: As 

Rah: evidenced by the photo I'm putting on our homepage. Touching each other's tits. Yeah, that's right. We're supporting each 

Emily: other. So 

Christine: trust the link. So, yeah, so briefly us, uh, us, you, I'm Rah, you're Rah, hi, hi, I'm the purple haired one.

You are the purple haired one. I do like your purple hair. I really do. 

Rah: Yes. Still trying to get it included on my business expenses. 

Christine: I know. I mean, branding should be. I know. 

Rah: Maybe I'll just take this and show it to my accountant. 

Christine: I should, I should. Get them 

Rah: to do their magic wand stuff. And if they just looked at your website.

Emily: know. 

Christine: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure 

Emily: that it's definitely a party brand. Yeah. 

Christine: Totally. And who are you, Chris? Well, I am the currently, uh, Red Streaked, but, um, it'll be jousting up next week. Um, um, when I go off to my fabulous hairdresser, um, and, um, that would be Michelin Co Hair. Um, 

Emily: and we'll be coming up on it really soon.

Absolutely. I need to book in my hairdresser. Cause 

Rah: we've, we've had M's hairdresser. Yours is coming. Yeah, she probably should. Baby makes three. You should probably get her on. Yeah. My hairdresser is mad as a cut snake. So she'll fit in perfectly. 

Christine: Love that. Um, yes. So. I'm Chris. I am half of Juniper Road with the gorgeous blonde sitting on my right, uh, Emily.

I was about to say, no, it's your left. Oh, no, 

Rah: no, 

Christine: no, it's my left. We did that earlier. Yeah, my right. Yes. I'm not in selfie mode here. Um, but yes, so we're, um, we are Juniper Road, operational shared services support for small to medium, um, businesses, one stop shop. What was the word you used this morning? 

Rah: End to 

Emily: end.

And I said that because I've been, uh, working on our website. I really liked it. Yes. That's why I put it on the website. It's much 

Rah: fancier than one stop shop. You're 

Christine: still refusing to put a picture of Lootmobile on 

Rah: your website. And I'm like, I don't know. 

Christine: What is it about that? Yeah, I know. Yes. Talk to the IT person.

Yeah, I will. Anyway, so yes, one half. Over to the other half. 

Emily: Yeah, I, me, hi, 

Christine: I'm Emily. I like 

Emily: long walks in the beach and peanut collardas and lots of tattoos. You feel like peanut collardas? Yeah, it's actually my favorite cocktail. We need to do a peanut collarda episode. Yes, Juniper Road, that is what we do.

I am the marketing side of Juniper Road. I mean, not that we're, we have sides of anything, but I do marketing, that's what I do. I make things pretty and I build websites and we do all the things. Um, I mean, if you've been listening to us, you would know who we are pretty much by now, but we're operational support specialists.

Rah: Yeah. 

Emily: Um, but we are here today to talk about community, which. Is going to be, you know, we've touched on a bit in a previous episode a few times and actually a few episodes, the importance of community. So, um, for anyone who has not been playing along, all three of us work in a remote slash virtual capacity.

I mean, we do. See people in real life because we are real people. God shock horror. Um, we do exist. Um, but you know, we, the community was community is actually how we've met, how we actually met each other. So, and the importance of that and how you two met as well. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. We met through a mutual contracting gig, 

Rah: but, 

Emily: um, yes, community is, is a really important thing in business.

No matter what your business is, we met through a virtual assistant community, which was designed for the fact that virtual. Means you work at home and you work alone. Yeah. So to help bridge that gap. Yeah, predominantly solo. Yeah. Yeah. But we are now also part of other communities that are not just industry specific, which is fabulous for anyone in any business.

You know, so Women With Altitude is also where we're all part of. 

Rah: Yep. Yeah. What other networks are you part of? You're part of Seed aren't you? We've got Seed. We're 

Christine: actually yours 

Rah: with um, the lovely Rosie. 

Christine: Oh yes, correct. We're part of Thrive Admin with Marianne. Yep. And then trying to get a little bit in with Spark, but that's a diary conflict sometimes to join those sort of the group, we just haven't actually participated yet because we need to get our shit together.

Yep. There's another like the Hills District business women, um, hoping to go in there and sort of, you know, go ahead and network cocktail. Yeah. I feel like that's a huge, Yeah. It's a huge big 

Rah: thing, but I mean, you know, God, I wish my area had that. Yes. What are you part of? Other than Wawa? So yeah, women with altitude, otherwise known as Wawa, um, or my plane ladies, as one of my mates says, cause she hears altitude and thinks plane altitude.

Oh, of 

Christine: course. Yes. So she 

Rah: thinks they're my plane mates. So, but she also knows I'm a plane nerd. So that's where my brain would go. Um, other networks that I'm part of, another big one that I'm part of is called the freelance jungle. So very similar to VA's. Um, and I've been a Patreon supporter. So they've got a membership model.

Um, and I've been doing that for about 18 months. And even just the free version of that, their Facebook group is a fantastic, slightly biased because I'm currently doing a project with Beck, who was the founder and chief, chief Minky, um, of, um, the freelance jungle. Um, but it's a really great and diverse group of people.

Um, like lots of people who I'm like, Oh, I recognize you from social media, quite big names, um, who are members of that network. I have. stuck my toe into BNI. 

Christine: Oh, yes. Yep. Yes. Wasn't 

Rah: the right one for me. Um, if you're in a trade, I think that's where it would really be beneficial because it's so, you're required to share details.

Yep. And bring in mates. And it's a bit like Avon for like networking is the way I see it. For people who don't know what Avon is, I don't know how to explain it. Is there a modern version? It's a multi tiered, multi level marketing sort of organization. Yeah. So it's like Tupperware. It's like Intimo. It's like Avon.

Yes, Arbonne, Thermomix, all of that. Oh my God, Nutramanix. God, I love Nutramanix in the day. I've also done, I'm a current member of BX, which is kind of, it sits in between the community mindset of Women with Altitude, but more of the business mindset like BNI. I think I live in an area that's not got great chapters.

As in, they don't suit me. Yep. I'm just not the norm for the area. Um, but I've heard It is actually 

Emily: something we've Talked about trying. 

Rah: I think, yeah, for you guys, I think it would be really beneficial. Um, and I've recommended quite a few people, especially out in that hills area, go along to some of the hills chapters.

I just find in my area, it's seriously lacking in good. Those that don't know rise in the inner west. Oh yeah. I'm in the inner west right under the flight path in Sydney. Yeah. And despite being such a huge creative. zone. Yeah. That doesn't seem to be interesting. Any big networks anyway. Yeah. I think there are small networks, but nothing.

Yeah. There's lots of industry specific like vegan restaurants and, you know, or photography or whatever. So those there's sorts of things. And I've experimented with a few other networks. Like there's the own, I forget what it stands for, something women's network, not origin. That's an energy company. Yeah.

A couple of others that I've done online. And. They're quite nice. It's just the timetable doesn't match. And also I have finite resources in terms of money and time. Yeah. And some 

Emily: of them do like be in BI, especially like they do require a heavy time commitment. Oh yeah. BNI definitely does. And it's sometimes that's really hard.

Rah: Yeah. 

Emily: To keep up with. If you're 

Rah: scaling your business, B and i, a hundred percent is the way to go, because if you've got the staff to back you up. 

Christine: Yeah. And that's, that's key really to fill in that gap. If it's you, if you're a solopreneur, if you are a very small micro business, it's really difficult. And it's that balancing act.

You know, you've gotta spend money to make money. You've got a network to find people who are gonna spend money in your beers, but you've also still gotta be, you know, spinning and making. The product, the service. Yeah. Yeah. 

Rah: Depends on what people's goals are for networking as well. And I broke a few people's heads when I met them at BX networking, because I said, Oh, I'm actually not here to sell.

Like if I do great, but I was there to find mates. It's like, Oh, through networking, I found you guys. 

Christine: But it's, but it's really important piece. Like I know when we, um, walked into our first women with altitude meeting and it felt very quickly like, Oh yeah, no, we're not going to find clients here. That's what's our initial thing.

Um, but then, you know, after going to a couple of the different chapters, you go, Oh yeah, no, this is good. We're going to find some like minded. Yeah. people, um, and connections and that became the important piece. Now, yes, we have actually got a couple of clients out of that community, but it wasn't the motivation.

And having clients actually is just reinforce the connection piece, the community piece. Yeah. 

Rah: If you're a Tyler, 

Emily: Women Without Shoes, not the network for you. No, I find something like, again, which has put me off a bit with being, I can't say I've been to one, so I can't speak to it from that perspective.

But I personally hate people that you can tell immediately are trying to sell to you. I don't want that. Like, I don't want to be feel like I'm pressured into doing anything. I'd rather meet someone and file that away for later being like, okay, you know that. Like I'd rather expand my network of connections.

Yep. Just 

Rah: grab 

Emily: the business card and add it to the box of things you can look at. Yeah. Like don't, don't kind of put me your hardcore sales press. Like if I was interested in whatever service that is, I'd come to you anyway. Like, yeah. Or I'd, I'd seek you out. I wouldn't be waiting for someone to sell, sell me.

And that's the, that's the hard part. I think you get with networking. There's a bit of a hit and a miss sometimes with that. Like, 

Rah: and sometimes it's just the chapter. Like it's just that particular location. I've found, I've had more luck with some online chapters versus face to face chapters. Or whatever.

But then you just never know what's going to come of it. 

Christine: No, no, you don't. And you've just got to give, um, you know, give it a good shot. And, and I've, a funny thing happened to me when my very First networking event I went to and I was really quite nervous because in my career, um, my former career of, um, event management within the hotel hospitality industry and you'd have to do sales.

Things, you know, the hotel guests would be invited by the general manager and you would have to go as a manager within the events team and somebody had to go to it, it was a weekly event and, you know, you were on roster for it and chatting to people that, you know, never met that, you know, all of that sort of stuff.

And it was just like, besides being really quite boring, I was there selling somebody else's product. I know it was my, the, you know, my workplace, but it was somebody else's product. And so I had that kind of like history and mindset. Um, for my very first, um, networking event, but it was just, wow, such a difference.

Um, I felt in myself immediately going in because I was there just talking and meeting people and just talking about their businesses and yeah, my business because they asked me about it. Yeah. And I think it's how you, how you look at that, how are you going to talk if you're going in there to find a client and make a sale, I don't think you're going to have a great experience.

Yeah. 

Rah: Mm hmm. 

Christine: And nobody wants to have somebody else to come up to them and then just immediately start talking about themselves. So you know, it's how you work though. There is. And so it's how you, you know, work at the room, um, and engage with people, um, makes it a much better experience, um, that turns it into something really beneficial.

And I think one thing women with 

Emily: altitude does do well is that it is about everyone. Like, you know, we, we all just actually came from. One today. Yeah. And it's like, we went through everyone got to stand up and introduce themselves and it gives you the opportunity to work on your elevator pitch. So you have, that was one of the real, it's a benefit because I think, I mean, I still fucking suck at it.

Clearly. If anyone listens to will hear me pass over the episode today. Where Emily's passed the buck to Christine. You know, so it gives you that opportunity to say your piece and you kind of, I know that I sit there and listen and go, okay, yep. She might be with a business that is more aligned to what our business services definitely no, not for her, you know, this, that.

So it kind of gives you an idea and like, You know, we have had experiences at the different chapters and we found one at one of the other chapters where you actually sat there and went, wow, okay, this is a nice distribution of people different to the other chapters. Yeah. These guys are probably more our target market.

Yeah. If we were, yeah. Um, you know, women with attitudes, let us present a few times, which is, which is Fucking great. Cause it's been good experience under our belt and also just to build the cunt, the confidence and stuff. 

Rah: Not quite what I meant to say.

Emily: Um, but you know, and that, that is quite nice too. Cause then it's like a bit of a, it, I like, To sell with education. Yeah. And that to me is the only way you should do it. It's empowering people. Yeah. And it's the best way to then people also get to see that you actually know what the fuck you're doing.

Yeah. And you actually talk the talk, you know, you walk the walk and talk the talk and you can show off your skillset without having to worry about, you know, You know, being fake and you're more legitimate, more authentic that way. And I do like that about that networking group. It's really good to, to do it.

And it's also really open, you know, I've got a beautiful friend who currently works full time and wants to start her own. side hustle. And she was like, Oh no, it's far too businessy. Like people are far too advanced in their business. I'm like, but no, don't let that stop you. Like come, there are people that either, that still work corporately that come, like come and meet some people, get your connections up and then you'll use the confidence you'll get off.

That is 

Christine: just 

Rah: learning from being around other people and just absorb their energy and. And even you work out how you don't want to operate. Yeah, exactly. If there's someone's vibe that you're like, yeah, no, that's not me. 

Emily: Yeah. I mean, we've all been there. I've been, I've done some contract work with people that I'm like, I fundamentally take issue to how you're running your business.

Like this is not how it should be done. And I'm gobsmacked that you're still getting away with running a business like this. There's been enough of that. Oh, mate. 

Rah: That's like 90 percent of the Instagram accounts I follow. And I'm just like, Oh my God, you are So faking it. Yeah. I can make you six figures and here's my client's stats.

And I'm like, yeah. Oh fuck. Don't even get me started on the six figures. Oh my God. It's my biggest pet hate. Yeah, it's 

Emily: not real. Yeah. And you know, it's just, it's about the reality of it all and I think that's the nice part about women with altitude. It is real. Mm. Um, and you know, the seed VA group that we're part of is for virtual assistants as is virtually yours with um, the lovely Rosie.

But they are very great communities for people that are often very remote and don't have people to talk to every day. And they have. I've created an environment where people can stay connected and there are some very strong friendships that have come out of it. And Seed ran a retreat earlier this year that I was half dead with fucking pneumonia and had to miss.

Which was devastating. But yeah, Chris went and we will go next year as well. So I can fucking actually go. But we will go next year. And um, it was, I mean, Chris was raving about it when she came back. So it's great that they even throw those opportunities in so people can meet properly as well. And that's why, you know, a lot of the motivation behind our conference is to invite everyone who listens, anyone that doesn't.

You know, he's interested to come and see and meet us in person if they haven't already met us in person, because so many people have met us in person and, um, listen to some really talented people in their industries and learn something or meet people that can help you down the track. Yep. And all in all, just don't feel awkward or uncomfortable.

Just have a bit of fun, you know, like it's going to be fun and it's going to be colorful and we're all going to be fucking exhausted by the end of it, but it's going to be, it's going to be so much fun. Absolutely amazing. Like it's. So good. And they're, they're the reasons why people put on stuff like this for connections.

Rah: Yep. And especially now that so many people are working from home or just operate, you know, remotely, like what we do a lot of the time you're isolated. Oh 

Christine: my gosh. And so you need to find your community, which is 

Rah: legitimately why I started the networking. It wasn't because I needed, I mean, I did need to make money, but.

I needed to find people. Oh, that thing that's funding everything. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, how else am I going to buy tickets to Hamilton? Um, have I mentioned it's back in Sydney, um, join our Facebook group of 11 and a half thousand people. Um, 

Emily: no, but I actually reckon you need to explain that properly because I think that's something that's really impressive and you don't give yourself enough credit for.

For? Your Facebook group. Oh for Hamilton? So Rah created, right? You created a Facebook group for Hamilton. Several years before it came to 

Rah: Australia. 

Emily: Yeah. With her massive, like obsession with it. Tell 

Rah: everyone how it's growing. Yeah. So created the Facebook group before I'd even seen it. I think it's eight years now that I've had the group.

11 and a half thousand members. That's massive. That's a 

Christine: huge community. 

Rah: Facebook groups are not hard. I'm 

Emily: not easy to 

Rah: manage. Oh God, no. They're not easy to manage. And I'm a hard ass bitch. Bitch. Like I've had people make complaints about the way I operate it, but I operate it with iron fist iron fist. Yes.

However, it's because people are being dicks. Like don't act like this is Twitter. And if you've got something negative to say, cause I've got, so in my Facebook group, like I'm very lucky. I've got the producers. Yep. I've got advertisers or like the people who are doing the marketing and the advertising.

You have those people that have actually joined this 

Emily: group. It's 

Rah: fucking nuts. Yeah. 

Emily: From starting it with six people. So fucking 

Rah: lucky. Even agencies that they recruit. Yes. As part of the production. Yeah. They are in there. I've got the cast in there. I've got family members. I've become mates with parents of the cast who like, even at the opening night a couple of weeks ago, found the mum of one of the cast members in like, I heard her name being called.

I was like, Oh my God, I've been messaging you for years because they, I run the group as if this whole production is like my family. Yes. Like I want people to be positive and treat it with the love and the respect that it deserves because any artist deserves that. Yeah. So if anyone does any comparisons, like I preferred this person over that person, fuck 

Christine: off.

Rah: Yep. Yeah, exactly. And so that, that's it. Got me some enemies and people trying to get me reported to the guy who wrote Hamilton. Like, which is fair, like fine, feedback, whatever, because of the aggressively positive way that I wanted the group to evolve, it got me a lot of attention with the powers that be who have brought Hamilton to Australia.

So yeah, it's very surreal to have the guy whose names at the top of the, you 

Christine: know, top billing, 

Rah: top billing and, you know, and be, you know, you know, recognized as having that community. And yeah, I've been a very lucky and very emotional Rara in the last couple of weeks. 

Christine: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Cause getting 

Rah: to sit front row.

For opening night and yeah. Yes. 

Christine: And, and we're very much looking forward to going. Yes. Group, group excursion. Yeah. So it's really important. Like, and so, you know, you've, you grew a community, you started and grew and you maintain, but it's important, like members of a community have a respect. Responsibility.

It might not be a written responsibility, but I think if you get, if you get something out of a community, put something back in so somebody else can get benefit from that as well. You know, don't be, and I, you know, there's, there's plenty of time and opportunity to sit there and just listen and watch, read and not participate.

And, and that's fine if you thirst. Entering into a community, um, because you don't often feel like you, you know, there's that level of imposter syndrome happening when you first join one. So you don't want to be heard, but there comes a time where you need to add value back to your community. Um, and yeah, in the instance of your, your Hamilton one, but it's like anything, there are rules, obey them.

Yeah. And I'm not such a. 

Rah: You know, I assume that they're going to know absolutely everything. Like I run things in a certain way and you know, but if there were the repeat offenders, well, I mean, Facebook's also got a 

Emily: system in place to manage that with Facebook groups as well. But it's also, it actually scares me how often people forget that you're just being a Straight up dickhead.

Like keyboard warriors is such a real thing. The amount of some of the Facebook groups I manage for some clients, I'm getting a lot of racial shit going on at the moment and it's just, it's just not needed. And 

Rah: people who are being keyboard warriors for things that they don't understand. Yeah. And things that they're saying, like I've had a client who was getting ragged on for months from someone who just kept commenting, kept commenting on every post going, you're not doing an acknowledgement of country.

Where's your acknowledgement of country? Yep. And they had been, and it was just that this person hadn't listened, but had, you know, decided that that was his. That was going to be his rant. Yeah. Yep. And I cannot tell you when I finally had enough and I, in my politest brand voice said, hello. Oh, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but we have had an acknowledgement of country on all platforms for at least X months.

And then, you know, thankfully that backed down, but sometimes I 

Emily: think you need to do it in a public plat, in a public way, because it also kind of sets a standard for other people that might be working. So there's, I mean, there's a lot of. Argue like, so there's two versions of community, right? We're talking about communities in person, which all the networking groups.

Mm-Hmm. There's also online communities. Yeah. And a lot of them are run via platforms like Facebook. Yep. Um, or you know, LinkedIn has its set of gr of groups that you can be part of on LinkedIn as well. But like Facebook groups are, um, a bit of a beast. Yeah. And there's people that, I mean, we're all self-confessed lurkers in groups.

Yeah. I mean, so many of them by the nature of what I do, but also for things that I like crafting and all that stuff that I, without a doubt lurking, the algorithms come into play in a group as well. Engagement is so important. And with an 11 and a half thousand K group, whatever it is, you know, Yeah. The algorithms are so fucking important for that one.

Yeah. Because otherwise no one's going to be seeing anything. Yeah. And it's also where a lot of this kind of bullshit happens, but I mean, and for anyone that's listening that is in an online group, for those of people that run these groups, it's so important that you like comment and engage because the group's strength, even if it's an emoji 

Rah: in a comment, anything, 

Emily: the group's, um, success is hindered on its members is actually.

Yeah. And if the groups become dead in the water, then, then like people just, it's too much work to try and manage it. Absolutely. So if you are part of an online group, make sure you do participate as best you can or every now and then, even if it's like grass, just a comment or a like or a 

Rah: little thumbs up, whatever it is.

It's funny you mentioned that cause this week I've been actively putting more time into going through my Facebook feed. And regaming the algorithm and engaging with certain groups and all of that. And like, it's, it started to take effect basically immediately. The algorithms are smart. It's not the same as when I scroll through TikTok.

It knows when I'm not looking. Yeah. 

Emily: And it's like, I know it's one of the, it's, but it's a good thing. You can sit on the couch and just have a bit of a fiddle on your phone and, you know, look at a Facebook group and just make some comments and stuff in there too. But it's so hard for us that have to manage to run these groups if there's no engagement.

Rah: Especially if it's part of a business model that's trying to use that as a lead gen, lead magnet. Oh yes. Oh yes. Very much so. And people who, like most of the Facebook groups that I'm in, if there's a paid model, they're not getting much. These are people who put quality product into their group. And it's not just them, like me, just like, Pissing people off out of the group if they're breaking the rules or whatever, but they're actually providing fucking great content.

Like I think I showed you one of the workbooks not long ago from the freelance jungle. And it's a fucking behemoth like Becca's put together. Something that she, like, that could be sold for like a hundred bucks. 

Christine: Yeah, easily. 

Rah: You know. It's a 

Christine: fabulous resource. Massive resource. 

Rah: And it's just made available to people.

Yeah. And it just breaks my heart when I see that it doesn't get that much engagement. No. I know. For that sort of stuff. And it doesn't take much. Yeah, I know. 

Christine: But you know, it's either whip out your Mastercard to pay for it. Yeah. Get your finger, your thumb and finger out and like and comment and share.

Rah: Cause those communities, you know, and there were like people who are on social like influences and whatever, who will take donate me a coffee and all of those sorts of things. If you see it as that, it's. me breaking the equipment here, but you know, it's just your way that you can give back and sort of share the love and which goes back to almost sort of when we were talking, um, very early episode about being paid and paying properly, you know, it's, it's the microtransactions that can make a big difference.

They say 

Emily: to support small businesses, it's as simple as a like share and a follow comment, you know, just liking on social media can do a world of good because it pushes. That stuff to like people you follow, like it, it broadens the net, which is what we all need. And it's hard for those of us that do social media management as, as part of our jobs.

Yeah, exactly. To help engage other, like our clients pages, because after a while, there's only so many. Posts that can just be like, I got busted. How funny is this, 

Rah: yesterday I got busted. I posted a reel on behalf of a client then, which I'll do sometimes go into one of my personal accounts. Cause I've got like six accounts logged in on my phone and just as my personal account went in and commented and did a like and whatever.

And then a mate of mine who knows that they're my client. busted me. And in the comments, she's gone, Oh, you weren't involved with this at all. Were you? She knows them as well as I know them. So she's like, it's like, 

Christine: but God, it was funny. You've got to start. Have you noticed that I've 

Rah: been doing that on our socials?

And I laugh so hard as me, you being like, I'm so excited. Like from my other account, I'm still so excited. And there was one that I did that was like, Now rah, fuck off and go and get that work done. Like stop putting us out on the internet. She's having an inner monologue with herself over these girls.

Yeah. So you can create your own community apparently by commenting on your multiple, you know. Or in your head. Yeah. Well, there's that as well. Yeah. So for anyone who's looking for a community. 

Emily: There's a lot of really good ones out there, you know, if you're a virtual assistant, there's shit tons. Yeah.

There's very area specific ones. There's also that are countrywide. If you're not in that kind of world or any other industry, there are the networking groups designed to help you build your business, or Places like Women With Altitude that are just great for a connection piece and get to know people and just 

Rah: find yourself a bit of a community.

Yep. Like there's even networks. I've made a mind who I met through different networking. Yes. And she's a vegan food photographer. Yes. Like that's her jam. And there's like restaurant networking and there's vegan. Industry. Maybe we need to start a f k around and find out. 

Emily: Podcast network. Hey. Community.

Facebook page. Hey. A group. Sorry. We have one of those already. Yes. We have a Facebook page. Yeah. But maybe we need to start a group. Well, you know, Seed just to reference them. Yeah. Seed have their select people that are called like select because it's a membership base, but the inner circle. Yeah. Maybe we should start the inner box.

Buy some coffee. No, buy 

Rah: a pina colada now that we know that you like pina coladas. Yeah. We could call it the Emily's Tattoo Fund. 

Christine: Yeah, 

Rah: let's just call it what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But 

Christine: it is, it's about testing it out. And for some, for some of us and other people, you can find success fairly quickly. You can find your vibe and your community.

And for other people, it takes a couple of attempts. But, you know, you've got to form a habit and habits take time. And it's just the same with like networking until you find your vibe, your people and the ones that you'll just want to come back. Cause you feel like you're coming back home. 

Emily: And it's also okay if you outgrow a network or a community as well.

Yeah. Like if you feel like you've kind of been there and done that and you haven't outgrown it, that's so fine. Cause it was right for you at that time. Yep. 

Rah: Yep. Yep. Exactly. So seriously, we will put a list of everything. Yeah. Episode. And if you want to, if you want to join a network that we build, 

Emily: we'll put a sneaky link.

Send us a text. Yep. Click the link in the show notes. Send us a 

Rah: text. You're just going 

Emily: to get spammed with cat stuff. Oh yeah. Oh my God. That's all Emma and I send each other. That's all I send Rah on Instagram. It's all the fucking cat stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Chris, you get saved from that. Yeah, I do. Thank you.

You're a lucky, you 

Christine: can spam me with anything to do with pets and fur babies. Yeah. Speaking of, we need to stop recording 

Rah: and look out for Ruby outside. Yes, we need to do that. 

Christine: I think then that must be the, uh, for today's episode. So, um, thank you. Thank you to the DM podcast studio in Woolloomooloo. Hope everyone can pronounce and spell that word.

I can't. No, but it's been great. Thanks Rob. Thanks. Thanks, Sam. Thanks, 

Rah: Chris. Thanks, Bullboys. I'd like to thank myself for being so fucking fantastic, and if people know that I'm quoting fame the musical now, Oh, but Snoop Dogg 

Emily: got up there and there was a clip of him being like, and I'd like to thank myself.

Self. Yeah. And then went on and I 

Rah: was like, 

Emily: I did thank myself 

Rah: at the altitude awards last year when I won. Well, you did the hard 

Emily: work. We will thank ourselves when we win this. 

Christine: That's right. Oh, yes. Thank you so much for listening to this episode and um, leave us a review and share, like, and subscribe and share with your tribe.

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